>reset with a brownout condition, anyone know offhand of a chip #. > National Semiconductor LP2951 takes 0-30VDC input, regulates it to 5VDC @ 100ma with a reset for your micro when 5V goes out of a 5% window. 8-pin DIP; less than a buck in quantity. On your crystal question, with a conventional crystal or a ceramic resonator, I typically use Zero ohms for series resistors. OTOH, I ALWAYS use a 1 meg in parallel with the crystal or resonator for reliable startup. If you're using a LF timing crystal like 32KHz, though, that's an entirely different kind of animal. .....................Reg Neale..................... "Ignorance is a renewable resource" P.J. O'Rourke