>You can then write a device >driver to emulate the dongle which you need for a bit of software, >and you're away. There's been a DOS TSR available for PCAD for some time now. I assume it also ports to other dongles. Like you say, It's no doubt intended for the less aggressive dongle type. >I can, however, >now use OrCAD without having the damn thing fall out of the back >of the machine on a daily basis.. I use OrCAD for DOS. If they're using dongles now, It only confirms my belief that OrCAD has started to slide downhill since Durbetaki stepped down as Pres. CEO. Mike