I might be asking for flame ignition here, but I just have to get this out. A Dongle may be a fun and interesting excercise in hardware encryption. However, to some end users, it's one of the most annoying inventions ever created. I regularly use five different CAD packages now and the prospect of chaining dongles, or switching them through a box, everytime I migrate from one package to another, is not a pleasant one. I returned an EAGLE layout package because It had one of these things, and I wrote them a long letter about a dongle hang-up on PCAD which cost me a week of downtime. They wrote me back telling me that they get a lot of the same feedback from other customers. Now CADsoft is shipping EAGLE 3.5, touting the lack of a dongle as a "feature". Good for them; I've just placed my order. The AutoCAD v13 I'm running now doesn't use a dongle either. Just my humble opinion. Mike