Eric Smith wrote: > When I first heard about the amazing new CMOS EPROM-based PICs (yes, > there were older NMOS masked-ROM parts), I thought they would be > really useful in my designs. So I called Microchip and got info on > development tools. They wanted many thousands of dollars for the > assembler, simulator, and a really horrible programmer. Eric: I'm surprised that you were quoted such a high price... Around here, that programmer (the original PICPRO) sold for $500; qualified customers got one for free. I don't know anyone who's ever paid for any version of the assembler or simulator. -Andy Andrew Warren - fastfwd@ix.netcom.com Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499