jc wrote: > Hello wold of pics' lovers, > my name is jc and i would like to have informations about pic burners > (schematics...), c sources and so on... > My email is petitj@esiee-amiens.fr > Thanks a lot and see you... Hi, I understand there are more than 700 people subscribed to this list so you are talking to a significant number of "PIC lovers". Anyway, for your benefit, and for anyone else who has recently subscribed, here is a quick look at how you can use the net to get more PIC info. I find the PICLIST the single most active forum for PIC discussions (a bit too active sometimes); lots of nuggets of information you will never see elsewhere appear regularly on the list. After here, perhaps your next port of call should be the Microchip BBS: telnet://mchipbbs.microchip.com The opening credits tell you how to login. If you use telnet to access the BBS you will really only be able to join in discussions with fellow BBS users (useful enough though, but on the whole not as useful as the PICLIST) and you won't be able to download files. For this the BBS allows anonymous FTP: ftp://mchipbbs.microchip.com A useful trick is to telnet to the BBS and get a list of files available by typing "lla" at the main menu (you'll need to have a terminal window which permits screen capture to do this efficiently). The list not only associates files with descriptions but tells you which directories they are in - you'll need to know this before you FTP. Once you have the bulk of what you want (at the very least MPASM and MPSIM) then every time you telnet to the BBS type "lfda" at the main menu to discover whether there are any updated or new files. A couple of niggles with this FTP server are: 1) you must enter a legal e-mail address as the password which means that Netscape and other WWW browsers that use silly names like "mozilla@" can't get in; 2) the "3rdparty" files can't be downloaded (no read access); to get these files you will have to enter the BBS via CompuServe. Actually you can download most information quite easily as Microchip run a great Web site: http://www.mchip.com/mchip/ Most PIC documentation is available there, but the BBS seems to get it more quickly. This site also has links to the WWW pages of such PIC notables as Andrew Warren (Fast Forward Engineering), Eric Smith and Andrew Errington and to a number of PIC related companies like Parallax and ITU. Next you should grab Tom Kellett's FAQ. Tom has recently HTML-ised the FAQ: http://digiserve.com/takdesign/pic-faq/faqindex.html (One day Tom might update my entry ;-) - it is sadly broken at the moment). Tom also has a growing collection of PIC links here: http://digiserve.com/takdesign/pic-faq/publinks/publinks.htm It's growing because anyone with a PIC related Web page can add a link for themselves. If you are not fortunate enough to possess a WWW browser then all is not lost as you can grab my PIC links page by FTP from here: ftp://ftp.mcc.ac.uk/pub/micro-controllers/PIC/piclinks.html the addresses of several other FTP (and WWW) sites can be extracted from it. If you can't even FTP there is still hope as you can use an e-mail/FTP gateway; to find out more send a message to ftpmail@ftp.sunet.se with the single word - help - in the body (there are probably gateways nearer to you than Sweden but I haven't got a complete list; I'm also told that there are e-mail/WWW gateways too but I don't have the details). PICs are often discussed on Usenet and the most likely newsgroups to entertain such discussions are: sci.electronics.design, sci.electronics.components, comp.arch.embedded and comp.robotics.misc and the appalling, but potentially so useful, alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt. OK, hope that helps - have fun! David -- david.tait@man.ac.uk