James Musselman wrote: > What Programmers are available for the PIC17C4X family? Are there > any of the low cost Picstart variety available? The Microchip PRO MATE (or PRO MATE II) will, of course, program those parts, but it's pretty expensive. The just-announced PIC-Start Plus will also program the 17C4x. -Andy Andrew Warren - fastfwd@ix.netcom.com Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499