After reading messages about the PICSTART on this list over the last year or so, I think I will buy a PICSTART 16B-1. I am making the decision partly on the fact that a lot of people seem to be using this programmer and the fact that you get a lot of documentation, software, and a sample PIC to experiment with as well as a good programmer. Is the programmer board already assembled or do you have to do that? I know that the 16B-1 does not program all the PICS that the 16C does and visa versa, but what am I truly missing by getting the 16B-1 instead of the 16C? Messages dated back about 8 or 9 months ago say that the software used with the PICSTART runs fine on an old PC with monochrome display adapter. That is precisely what I plan to install this system on. Is today's software still text and DOS-friendly? Are there any 40-pin adapters for the 16B-1, yet? I want to thank many people on this list for sharing their ideas and knowledge. I will do the same as I actually began to program PIC's. Finally, is Digi-Key still a good place to order PIC's? Where is a good place to order the PICSTART? Have a prosperous New Year. Martin McCormick 405 744-7572 Stillwater, OK OSU Center for Computing and Information services Data Communications Group