My first message to PICLIST, and it bounced it as a "dup'"... hmmm. Well, I'll try again, as it doesn't seem like it could possibly be a duplicate when I've never sent one before... Greetings! A few people have inquired about a source for light sensors which are usable with PIC's. I have done some work in this area, and have found the TI "light-to-frequency" chips quite useful. These 8-pin DIP's output a variable pulse rate depending upon the light level they see. It is a simple matter to connect their digital output to a PIC input bit and measure the frequency of the pulse train, and hence the light level. Some models (like the TSL230, for example) are programmable. This means that their sensitivity and output pulse rate can be set by some digital control lines. If you use a few PIC outputs to control these lines, you can obtain a very wide dynamic range of light measurement. TI publication "Opto-Electronic Products, Product Summary" is a useful starting point for anyone getting involved with these and other TI optical devices. For the person interested in sensing color of an object, I suggest using multiple sensors with optical filters over them. Check Edmund Scientific as a source of colored filter material. It would seem that "fuzzy logic" techniques would lend themselves well to determination of "color" from these multiple light-level signals. Russ Reiss - HOPCO - russ.reiss@circellar.com P.O. Box 2425, Vernon, CT 06066 FAX: 860-872-4681 BBS: 860-872-4684 PIC TOOLS: PICSPA Programmer, PICPRO Prototype Board, PICPGM Software See June '94 Circuit Cellar INK, page 22.