Thanks Jim, that's what I figured I was doing.. cutting my self off. Now the only problem is, I have all the microchip data books, app book, etc, but the darn assembly instruction set is (Microchip version ) etc . seems to confuse me.. Parallax in their docs says that there are 33 instructins in microchip's version, but I look at the call and it's addr8 too! hmmm. I must be missing the boat on the real instruction set from microchip somehow.. Thanks. Brad WB8YGG