To those who haven't heard: Microchip just announced release of the PIC16C52.. Specs are 384 words program memory 25 bytes data RAM RC & XT modes only to 4 MHz 8 bit timer w/ prescaler No watchdog same pinout as the C54/6/8 priced about 18% below the C54 future ROM version available John Magrane FAE Bell Industries T: 408 734-8570 F: 408 734-8875 72712.2347@compuserve.com