> At least then you can make fun of > anyone who can't figure out how to get unsubscribed:) Well, I won't make fun of them since I've been totally unable to unsubscribe my old email address (eric@telebit.com) based on the instructions. The list server may be sending it to an address on a specific machine inside Telebit, but I can't figure out which one, and I've tried sending unsubscribe messages from all the likely candidates. I've even tried forgeing (sp?) unsubscribe messages from machines that I can't actually send email from. I currently get two copies of everything since my old email address currently forwards to the new address. I have my .procmailrc file set up so that the copy that gets forwarded from my old address goes directly into the bit bucket. At some point the old address will start bouncing everything, so I guess either 1) the list server will automatically unsubscribe it 2) the list server will complain to Jory, who will unsubscribe it 3) the bounces will get to the list itself, and annoy everyone else so much that *they* all unsubscribe themselves Hopefully it won't be #3. Cheers, Eric