>I am looking to get something QUICK!! I want a programmer that can do up >to the 40 pin devices ie the 16C64. I would really like to have a >windows programming, debugging, simulating burning package. I've been quite happy with the Parallax PICPGM programmer. It's $99 for the hobbyist pack (docs on disk, make your own cable), plus $49 for the 40 pin ZIF adapter. (You could make your own, but the ZIF socket is not cheap.) Works quite well for me...