Darren Guiden wrote: > A quick question: I have been told that the Picstart is only for use > as a development programmer and not for final production use. I have > used it to program a small run of '71s (50) and not had any > problems, or am I missing something..... > > Or could Microchip just be trying to sell me a Promaster :) Darren: The PROMATE (it ceased to be called PROMASTER over a year ago) verifies programming at two voltages; the PICSTART (and all the DIY hobbyist-type programmers of which I'm aware) only verifies at one voltage. It's possible for a PIC to verify correctly at one voltage, but fail at another. Your PICSTART is probably fine for small runs like yours, but for real production runs, it'd probably be a good idea to get a real production programmer like the PROMATE (or PROMATE-II, now). -Andy Andrew Warren - fastfwd@ix.netcom.com Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California http://www.geopages.com/SiliconValley/2499