>> I'd like to operate a normal 4MHz, PIC16C84 with an 32.768kHz crystal >> (the same one that used in clocks), but I had problems. >> I have used of course LP config mode, and 100pF capacitors. >Did the chip work when the scope probe was held against the pins? If so >then you will probably need more capacitance (we had the same problem >with this frequency of crystal). We found we needed less (22pF each side, as I recall.) The other thing you might need is a drive limiting resistor in series with the crystal; I think (and I might be well wrong here) that a distorted output from the crystal (i.e. a distorted input to the PIC) indicates overdrive. The clock oscillator gave more trouble than any other bit of the last widget we designed.. Dave