Newfound Electronics wrote:

> Good designs and the back up for them look like disappearing soon.

Jim, I wonder if you could elaborate on the above statement.

> But I don't see the designers of these programmers jumping up and down
> to help anyone out ...

Perhaps I'm just touchy this morning but as the designer of a simple
16C84 programmer I would like to point out that, although short of
jumping up and down, I do try to help people out.  I have setup a
FTP site where help notes and user contributed software can be found:

ftp://ftp.mcc.ac.uk/pub/micro-controllers/PIC/

and I answer all queries relating to the programmer as promptly as
possible.  All the information, software and help is given free of
charge.

David
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david.tait@man.ac.uk