Somewhere I read there is a new list for PIC Development Tools. Please count me in. About the Development Tool someone is asking for, I just want to know: Do you need to evaluate programs in real-time? If not, maybe we could design an In-Circuit Simulator. Here's how it works: Code Simulation is on PC. A circuit containing any microcontroller connects to a target board for the PIC. The I/O lines of the PIC is simulated by the microcontroller. Any instruction causing an I/O access will be relayed to the microcontroller by the PC through RS232. The result is non-real time I/O access. The microcontroller can do the programming as well. Sorry I cannot explain the concept fully or clearly. I'm in a rush so I'll discuss it more next time -- if anyone is interested please let me know. I've designed In-Circuit Emulator for the 68HC11 as a hobby (for work, I do 32 and 64) maybe I could help out design a low-cost In-Circuit Emulator for the PIC. Joel Carvajal joel@tds.pfi.net