On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Siegfried Grob wrote: > Hi all, > > I need a programmer suitable for In Circuit Programming of all PICs of the > 16Cxx-family. I suppose that a programmer must meet the following > specifications: > Siggi Hi Siegfried, I hope I'm not missing the point on your 16Cxx in-circuit programming question, but why would you need to program anything but an 84 in-circuit? Please sit me back in my corner if I am way off the mark. :-)) 1) An EEPROM chip: Fine. Load and go! 2) An OTP chip: No, why? 3) An EPROM chip: Yes, but needs eraser placed over chip and takes a little time, however as any socket can easily be converted to a temporary ZIF socket, a standard programmer and several EEPROM version chips may do the same thing more readily. I have a Parallel Port driven Serial In-circuit Programmer that I would like to see your comments on. It uses the bull-dozer approach to Load and Go programming. A Program/Run 4PDT switch is used to control this feature. It is based on David Tait's design and uses a 10 pin IDC header and flat ribbon cable to get to the target board. This header is pin compatible with a design featured by Dr Russ Reiss in Circuit Cellar magazine. It also has provision for an on-board 18 pin ZIF socket and a power supply capable of running both the programmer and a small target system if required. A suitable prototype target board (PIGMY) is also available that has the matching 10 pin header on board and has support for all 18 and 28 pin PICs. It has support circuitry for the Parallax Basic Interpreter (BS-1) chipset, plus DB-25, MAX-232, etc., etc. You can check out the circuits, overlays, other hardware features, assembly instructions, and drivers at the Silicon Studio site: ftp://rasi.lr.ttu.ee/pub/sis/prod/microchip/3rd-Party/Don.McKenzie/ The following drivers are available: (Not all on Silicon Studio yet) David Tait U.K. QBasic, C. Dr Russ Reiss. U.S. Circuit Cellar Magazine. New Zealand Anon. Visual Basic for DOS. Silicon Studio Estonia PIP-02 (MSDOS, WIN_31, WIN_95) Cybertek Las Vegas U.S. Assembly Language. (PC). Shareware available for 84, Registration for others. (Working, still Beta-testing) Nigel Goodwin. U.K. Pascal (Working, still Beta-testing) The files in question are: DON001_1.ZIP, DON001_2.ZIP, and DON001_3.ZIP. These files are also available from the MicroChip BBS in the 3rdparty SIG. Don... Don McKenzie ~~ _--_|\ ~~ Email: donmck@tbsa.com.au 29 Ellesmere Cres., ~~ / `\ ~~ Phone: + 61 3 9338 6286 Tullamarine 3043 Australia ~~ ( ) ~~ Mobile: + 61 019 939 799 (10 Miles from Melbourne) ~~ \/~^~\_@/ ~~ Same address for 21 years v