I tried to get in touch with the sysadmin at TIBALT.SUPERNET.AB.CA, without luck. I talked to a user who was logged in, and he called their 24/7 support number, but only got an answering machine. Finally, Infomation for the Calgary area (area code 403) doesn't have a listing for Sorgi (the spammer's name may be Tony Sorgi). I definitely think it's time for anti-spam measures on mailing lists. d. -- finger dhm@vheissu.iii.net or dhm@iii.net for pgp public key - - - key fingerprint = A3 CD FF 60 A7 62 81 BB 67 E3 EC 4A D3 22 DE 3B