I am trying to program a PIC16c84 chip with serial mode. I have tried three different programmers (all based on David Taits programmer). However, I have not succedid to get any of them to work. The hardware is mega simple, and I have checked the hardware many times, but cant find any errors. Have anybody any clue what might be wrong. I get a verify error when I try to program a PIC. (Is David Taits programmer supposed to work ??) I am using a TIKI 486 DX 33 PC. tobias