The following info is taken from ETI magazine and should enable those in the US to obtain both issues (May & June 1995) of ETI, detailing the design/construcion of both H/W & S/W for a universal PIC Programmer. (If you (can) order the article alone (not the entire magazine) bear ) ( in mind that the PCB foils are usually at the back of the magazine,) ( and not in the article itself. ) ETI (Electronics Today International) ===================================== ===================================== << Don't know if this is relevant but I'll include it anyway: >> ABC (Audit Bureau of Circulations) ISSN 0142-7229 Consumer Press Publisher / Overseas / Back Issue Address: ========================================== * 1. Published by ARGUS SPECIALIST PUBLICATIONS: * 2. Overseas & non-newstrade sales by Magazine Sales Department: * 3. Back Issues can be obtained from: (1., 2., 3. have the same address:) Argus House, Boundary Way, Hemel Hempstead HP2 7ST, England. tel. : (0442) 66551 fax. : (0442) 66998 USA Subscription: ================= Subscription Rates: (Published Monthly) US Dollars Overseas $56.00 Sterling Overseas k31.00 << This answers the question: "how much is k35?" >> US subscriptions by Wise Owl Worldwide Publications, 4314 West 238th Street, Torrance, CA90505 USA Visa/Mastercard orders in USA: tel. : (310) 375 6258 fax. : (310) 375 0548 Pacific Time: 9am - 9pm Weekdays 10am - 6pm Weekends =========================================================================== The magazine doesn't give an email/www/ftp... address. Hope this helps, Chris Madden maddenc@itd1.ul.ie Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy