Greetings to Microchip and Brian Boles, If I was hard pressed to make a minimal suggestion, I'd suggest making a c84 with a 12 bit A/D. As you would probably use successive approximation to perform the A/D, you could also get a D/A converter out of the PIC as well. By making TRISTATE sample and hold circuits as the outputs of your 8 I/O pins, you could hook in an internal analogue multiplexor and thus offer A/D and D/A on any of the output pins. (naturally, these could not drive any mega level of load, but on the c84 those pins can't anyway) That would make the c84, stumped for better words, *AWESOME*. It would make the c84 the obvious choice for experimenters and low intensity applications people. You could imagine the number of CRO'S and function generators, sound effects units etc etc that would fill the magazines if such a beasty existed. Hey, an alternate way to do the A/D is have in input Analogue input connected to a simple VCO, in turn fed into a counter. Hey, that's how I did it once, and it gave me the 8khz 8 bit sample rate I needed. But yeah, c84 with A/D and D/A all the same... Thanks, Regards, Mick Kunstelj. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Greetings and Salutations from Mick Kunstelj |If MS do make a global u913596@student.canberra.edu.au |network, you should be more |worried about a satellite I accept no care or responsibility for anything,|landing on you than them anywhere or anytime.... So NYAH!!!! |taking things over... -------------------------------------------------------------------