> > Hello, > two small questions: > after hanging around here for some time and not saving most of the traffic > to disk, I have one stupid and one less stupid question. The stupid > question first: > > Is the PICStart 16B1 Kit a good starting point for working/playing with > PICs ? For the time being, I'll probably focus on the '84, mainly for > monetary reasons - the reprogrammable Versions of the other PICs are simply > too expensive in low quantities. It sure is a good point. But for a 16C84 you can actually do one better and build your own programmer. Take a look on ftp.armory.com:/pub/users/rstevew/PIC/pp.* These files describe a 16C84 programmer developed by David Tait. Works quite well. Also all of the microchip programming tools are available at ftp.sics.se:/pub/mchipsoft BTW if this is a dumb question I'd sure like to see your smart ones ;-) > > And the probably less stupid question: will the PICStart 16B1 work on/with > an old plain-vanilla notebook under DOS (8086-comp. V20, 2 Meg RAM, > serial/parallel port, CGA screen) ? Speed will hopefully be not an issue. Yes it will. Speed is not an issue. Runs off a serial port. Currently I use mine connected to a notebook running Linux. Works fine with the DOS emulator for Linux. That way I can do other stuff while I'm working on my PIC development. > > And a last question :-) : is the list still alive ? It was very quiet > during the last few days. It sure is. It goes though it's lulls until someone posts something interesting. Later, BAJ