> > > John R. Haggis wrote: > > > Are they saying the R/T have fixed code prefixes inside? Would they > > distribute matching sets to the same areas? That would be bad. Who's to > > say they don't do this? > > > > Anyone have any hard information on this? Batching sets to an area would be uneconomical given the sales rates of alarms. There are at least half a dozen different coding chips on the market, each uses a slightly different way of producing the code. _Most_ of them use at least 12 bit code. A couple of Motorola devices use 3-way sensing on the inputs i.e. pos, neg, or floating input gives a code differ. Thats 12 x 3 x,,, er, who's got a calculator ? :) Now if you did it with a PIC, you could have 8 bits user selected and a couple of locs. with random nos pre-programmed. Mix and match before transmitting and have the decode routine learn it's relevant Tx code. That gives you 24 bit code with one 8 way dil-switch. Then transmit the code twice, the second time inverted and code samplers will just fall over. Then Werner wrote ; > > > > Even if they do have longer codes than just the eight bits, the code could > still be sampled by a fast microprocessor in much the same manner as the > multiple IR remote control devices work which "learns" a code. Unless the > code is different every time you press the button, there will be an easy > option to decipher the code. I have experimented with this and it is > definetely possible. Possible, but an unrealistic time-scale. The micro does'nt have to be fast BTW 'cos the code is not transmitted all that fast, a PIC running at 8 Meg would still take, from memory over 3 hours to cycle. __ TAK