I'll second Eric's comments on Mitsubishi (being hard to deal with). When I was considering design ideas for a widget we eventually built 11,000 of, I called Mitsubishi to ask about a 'perfect for the task' 4-bit CPU that they had. I had a terrible time getting through, only to find that they wouldn't even *talk* to me unless I could promise an initial production run of 100,000+ pieces. Paid up front. (!) Microchip sent me free samples and an apps engineer. Easy, huh? forbesm@csos.orst.edu Mark G. Forbes