Thanks to everyone who has responded so far to my request for opinions as to which PIC programmer to buy. I haven't bought one yet, but it looks like it's come down to either the PICSTART from Microchip, or the Parallax programmer, mainly due to cost. I thought I had settled on the Parallax one, but I found out that there's a Microchip seminar coming to town (Vancouver), and that I can get the "PICSTART development system" for $79US there. The seminar costs $99US, so that puts my total cost at about the same as the Parallax programmer. They tell me that the seminar is very informative (5.5 hrs), and that you get books and _product_samples_ with the PICSTART package. That part sounds good to me, but, as I am a beginner, I think the seminar may be way over my head... I haven't heard from anyone who has used the PICSTART. Can someone please give be a brief comparison of the PICSTART and the Parallax programmers? Thanks, Richard Friesen Little Timmy took a drink, (Richard_Friesen@mindlink.bc.ca) But now he'll drink no more, For what he thought was H2O Was H2SO4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- -- Richard Friesen Little Timmy took a drink, (Richard_Friesen@mindlink.bc.ca) But now he'll drink no more, For what he thought was H2O Was H2SO4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --