Im having severe problems getting hold of the PIC16C84 in the UK - Maplin dont have any in stock, and reckon the entire UK wont get stock of them for months. I take Maplin advice with a pinch of salt - but even Farnell, who I also tried, were out of stock for 4 weeks at the very least. Where can I get my hands on a PIC to test my newly assembled programmer? Peter - Peter Knight Email: p.j.knight@uk.ac.bradford Mono: Cathedrow _ _ _ _ Who says you can't display letters on a 7 | _| |_ |_ |_| _| _ _ _| segment display? OK, so you can't do a W..|_ |_| |_ | | |_ |_| | |_| _|